Ep. 054 – From Codependence to Christ-Dependence with Kate Smith from Catch the Fire | Part 1: Healing the Worship Disorder
In this powerful conversation, Dr. Barbara sits down with Kate Smith, apostolic leader of the Catch the Fire movement (formerly associated with the Toronto Blessing), to talk about moving from codependence to Christ-dependence.
They share about the revival roots of Catch the Fire, the impact of the Toronto Blessing on leaders like Heidi & Roland Baker and Nicky Gumbel, and how the Father’s love and the presence of the Holy Spirit transform our brains, our relationships, and our hearts.
Dr. Barbara unpacks codependence as a “worship disorder”—when we chase human connection more than connection with God—and Kate shares how our early attachment to our earthly parents shapes how we relate to Father God, our spouses, and leaders.
If you’ve ever felt stuck in caretaking, control, people-pleasing, resentment, or always feeling like “the bad one,” this episode will help you see codependence in a new light and invite you deeper into the Holy of Holies with Jesus.
Note: The thoughts and opinions expressed by our guests are their own and may not always reflect the views of Dr. Barbara or Heart Journey.
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